Are you comparing #digciz to #clmooc or other facilitated on-line events? Your use of words “hospitality” and “concierge” suggest that to me. I am thankful that the organizers set up the event, because it provided a #focus for you, me, Kevin and others to continue to explore, interact and keep building relationships with each other, while also opening potential links to others.
My expectations about a digital citizenship conversation was not one where the focus was how we behave, or how we protect the safety of young people, which are really important topics, but how we connect to better understand problems in the neighborhood or the world, and ways we can innovate solutions to those problems. I see some of this in the fringes of the conversation, but not as the primary focus.
Of course, one of those problems is how we connect and interact with each other in on-line spaces.
I enter these on-line discussions as a stranger and welcome the opportunity to engage, without being demeaned or kicked out, or blocked, as has happened in a few places where I’ve interjected my ideas.
At my level of participation I’m satisfied with #digciz.
Anybody who would kick out Daniel Bassill from a conversation has just lost out big time.
I push the envelope of trust sometimes. I am pretty blunt. Not necessarily a good thing in a new group but I know you will take it for what it is intended–engaging.
Absolutely defining citizenship is a fool’s paradise. Provisionally, I am ok with that. Often we get bogged down in this definitional fallacy like last week on #digciz.
The introductory post this week brought up the term “hospitality”, a term that is steeped in real worldedness. I just want to know what this word means in virtual space. The wittycomic I created pretty much asked the same question: http://www.wittycomics.com/comic/122209
OK, now I’m really just wandering around in your blog leaving comments. I’m sorry I didn’t find it earlier.
So to get concrete about what hospitality could mean in virtual space, I think I have two things in two hands. In one hand, an idea about a way that I see people behaving in virtual environments, with kindness towards strangers specifically. I’ve been watching this online for over twenty years, wondering about our capacity to treat each other well. I’ve been wondering what online has to do with it, as online itself has changed over that time, whether there are more or fewer opportunities to be trusting, whether kindness itself can survive becoming part of an attention economy. Like, like, click, click. $.
In the other hand I have this word “hospitality” which I want to see if I can pull away from ideas of owning or controlling a space or a platform or a corporation, to simply owning and controlling how you act as a person.
So I’m putting my two hands together to say that I think that this willingness to treat strangers well is something I can call hospitable, but it’s not about access to space, it’s about how we act. It’s a hospitable way of acting towards others online.
That’s where I’ve come to watching the conversations looping around this week. I have an odd take on them because they mostly happen while I’m sleeping. So I wake up to a feeling like the mailman came to me house and threw a sack of mail on the front lawn, just anyhow.
Your comment about whether kindness can survive the attention economy is a big one. I have been trying to get my hands around this big wrench: can we be convivial/hospitable with the mostly proprietary space we use? One listen on this has has really impressed me, Tristan Harris, former ‘design ethicist’ for Google: https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/what-is-technology-doing-to-us
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Hi Terry.
Are you comparing #digciz to #clmooc or other facilitated on-line events? Your use of words “hospitality” and “concierge” suggest that to me. I am thankful that the organizers set up the event, because it provided a #focus for you, me, Kevin and others to continue to explore, interact and keep building relationships with each other, while also opening potential links to others.
My expectations about a digital citizenship conversation was not one where the focus was how we behave, or how we protect the safety of young people, which are really important topics, but how we connect to better understand problems in the neighborhood or the world, and ways we can innovate solutions to those problems. I see some of this in the fringes of the conversation, but not as the primary focus.
Of course, one of those problems is how we connect and interact with each other in on-line spaces.
I enter these on-line discussions as a stranger and welcome the opportunity to engage, without being demeaned or kicked out, or blocked, as has happened in a few places where I’ve interjected my ideas.
At my level of participation I’m satisfied with #digciz.
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Anybody who would kick out Daniel Bassill from a conversation has just lost out big time.
I push the envelope of trust sometimes. I am pretty blunt. Not necessarily a good thing in a new group but I know you will take it for what it is intended–engaging.
Absolutely defining citizenship is a fool’s paradise. Provisionally, I am ok with that. Often we get bogged down in this definitional fallacy like last week on #digciz.
The introductory post this week brought up the term “hospitality”, a term that is steeped in real worldedness. I just want to know what this word means in virtual space. The wittycomic I created pretty much asked the same question: http://www.wittycomics.com/comic/122209
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OK, now I’m really just wandering around in your blog leaving comments. I’m sorry I didn’t find it earlier.
So to get concrete about what hospitality could mean in virtual space, I think I have two things in two hands. In one hand, an idea about a way that I see people behaving in virtual environments, with kindness towards strangers specifically. I’ve been watching this online for over twenty years, wondering about our capacity to treat each other well. I’ve been wondering what online has to do with it, as online itself has changed over that time, whether there are more or fewer opportunities to be trusting, whether kindness itself can survive becoming part of an attention economy. Like, like, click, click. $.
In the other hand I have this word “hospitality” which I want to see if I can pull away from ideas of owning or controlling a space or a platform or a corporation, to simply owning and controlling how you act as a person.
So I’m putting my two hands together to say that I think that this willingness to treat strangers well is something I can call hospitable, but it’s not about access to space, it’s about how we act. It’s a hospitable way of acting towards others online.
That’s where I’ve come to watching the conversations looping around this week. I have an odd take on them because they mostly happen while I’m sleeping. So I wake up to a feeling like the mailman came to me house and threw a sack of mail on the front lawn, just anyhow.
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Your comment about whether kindness can survive the attention economy is a big one. I have been trying to get my hands around this big wrench: can we be convivial/hospitable with the mostly proprietary space we use? One listen on this has has really impressed me, Tristan Harris, former ‘design ethicist’ for Google: https://www.samharris.org/podcast/item/what-is-technology-doing-to-us
And the powerful cognate post he wrote here: https://journal.thriveglobal.com/how-technology-hijacks-peoples-minds-from-a-magician-and-google-s-design-ethicist-56d62ef5edf3
I just put them here so you can come back to them if you are interested.
tl;dr version–we are being manipulated just like any sucker in Vegas. Scares me since these people are running elections around the world, too.